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Re: GERD without heartburn

From: werner3343@aol.com
Date: 4/29/00
Time: 8:24:45 AM
Remote Name: 152.163.204.183

Comments

Judy wrote:

>I myself was also wondering what kind of doctor performs a bronchial >endoscopy to see if there's any damage to the lungs.

I never heard of bronchial endoscopy. If it can be done , which I doubt , then I think , I wouldn't like it (how to breath??) :-( . However , if it's GERD , then there is no connection from esophagus to the bronchial tubes. So I wouldn't expect any damage in the lungs. But, as Hawk wrote , you can even have symptoms with ears,back etc. , so don't nail me with this.

>When I took antihistimanes last month, it was spasming so hard I was crying.

what antihistamines ? Was it ranitidin ? Ranitidin worked good for me, I think it was ranitidin which stopped my throat-symptoms last year.

>I get other gastro disturbances, burping a lot after eating the wrong things >(especially cranberry juice),

that's common with GERD . You're swallowing a lot , to keep the reflux down and the saliva contains much air. (That's what they told me, but I wonder , whether gas might also enter stomach through duodenum ??) I'm belching a lot , 5-10 times within a minute , usually some minutes after eating or walking , no matter , what I eat.

>I am now pondering whether I should have made the >appointment later in the month with a GI for an endoscopy. Although it seems >to make sense to me to look for damage there as well.

If you never had one , I would do it. You can't know , what had happened over the years. You can also do a manometry , which isn't as uncomfortable as a 24h PH , (I never had 24h PH) since it only takes about 20 minutes.

>Let me see if I can understand the physiology of this thing: >people who have throat symptoms have >them because the LES is loose and for some reason, goes up into the throat >more often than in other people. There was a theory on a voice site about the >UES being the only muscle involved in such cases, but I thought it was just >one theory. Maybe somebody else can explain this. Because if there's a >different loose valve involved, maybe the two new procedures wouldn't >really work for us.

usually it's the UES, that is faulty. With me the LES didn't work either , no heartburn ,though . Heartburn comes from esophagitis , I read. So maybe my esophagus can well resist the reflux , while the throat is more sensitive to reflux.

http://www.bgsm.edu/voice/reflux_voice.html is the URL of the article , that I was referring to. It's from 1993.I found it with keyword search from a search engine.

Werner.


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